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And by making that statement- you flat out tell falsehoods-- which defines to me that you are a Liar and someone untrustworthy...

So what else do you in your daily/workaday activities lie about, falsify, or make false innuendos about ?

Are you saying you do not agree with Obama?

I'm saying I do not agree with ALL of what any of those folks you put up there do or support-- and that you're statement tells me that you like to fabricate things and deceive by putting out false innuendo.....Which actually from some of your past posts does not surprise me...

Unlike so many- I don't just support all that someone says- just because THE party says to..

That might be but 70 years from now my grand daughters children will be paying for Obama flubs.

Yep the politics of class envy which tryants like obama, lenin, and Hitler have used down through history to get the great unwashed to follow them into ruin and slavery.

Two of the biggest examples of the liberal rot that you and your leaders preach ot first the average guy is too stupid to take care of himself (probably true of most obama voters) and thus the govt has to take care of him. amazing how when the liberals speak they always bring along some emotional cripple to use for as an example of why the govt has to get bigger to take care of him and folks like him.

second example of liberal rot is the class envy card where the tyrant rants about how the rich get bigger at the expense of the little guy when in truth the folks that obama calls rich (earning over 250000) are the ones who own most of the small companies of this country and they are the ones that employ the most people. obama cant figure out why those folks are not hiring more people as he conviently forgets how he constantly talks about taxing the hell out of any profits they make. obama is either the dumbest guy to ever infest the oval office or he is a completely evil person bent on ruining the free enterprize system .

you are completely in the tank for pelosi, reed , the bamster, and the first pervert aka barney ( I like little boys) frank.

And Jim- thats the kind of arrogant, holier than thou, we know better than thou attitude that has driven me further from the current radical right that is trying to take control of the party...
I guess its difficult for those that have always been cult spokesmen followers to understand that some folks still think for themselves....

Ok OT did you support Obama for president?
simple yes or no answer

I voted for Obama because he was clearly the best choice we had. (Not that I am at all pleased with the course he has taken since.) Nevertheless, when you read the demagoguery, vitriol and irrationality of those (here) who oppose him one has to believe it was the correct choice...because if you really had a case you would not resort to the level of bigotry and, quite frankly, evil, irrational hate that you so freely demonstrate here. You can declare that your hate is righteous indignation as many times as you wish but understand that neither a bigot nor a racist has ever self identified...and Jim proves this as "exhibit A" right here on this thread. Jim, you might note that none of your buddies have touched your little bigotry-filled diatribe with a ten foot pole...take a hint...it is pathetic.

Regarding the original thread statement: Isn't it interesting that the best person character wise, the most well-intentioned person, is the least favored one. And Robert, you may be correct but is it is interesting how the Reagan fans are able to block out the whole Iran Contra thing-which turns the entire "I am for the people" mantra on its head and and defines "farce" and "hypocrisy" and obliterates his anti-government facade????

Ot , I read your rants for months before the election and since and way back when I promised you that if your hero turned out to be as big a dud as I thought he would, I would be back to raise hell with you and he did and I am and I am going to have fun doing it so get used to it. as for you leaving the republican party, I am not sure if you were ever in it and if so you were in the wrong party as you seem to be a guy who likes the gov to take care or you .

Boxy, I cant tell you how happy I got reading your words this morning knowing full well that if what I wrote bothers you , I am pretty much right on the mark . Happy reading Boxy!!

The real truth is that obama and pelosi and reed and barney frank are dangerous people who if left to their own devices will ruin this country and quite frankly I dont think they care and I know they dont care about the american people especially the ones that are little or not born yet whose future they are trashing.

boxy and ot , I will be back to continue your much needed reeducation. Till then , try to smile.

Thats your problem- you look at this world too simplisticly as everything is in black and white- and forget the grey and brightly colored parts....
The first candidate I supported and donated to was Congressman Ron Paul- but when THE party refused to accept him- and the Libertarians brought in an exRepub outsider to represent them (Barr, who stood NO chance of winning) - I then supported Obama over maintaining the status quo of having 8 more years of Bush and his bankrupting and sellout of America with McSame....

Does that mean I agree with everything Obama says or does- nope...Does that mean I agree with Pelosi or Reid- nope....
The 2008 vote was for the lesser of two evils- the same as the 2000 vote was when I voted for Bush- who I did not agree totally with but more so than Gore...I gave Bush 5 years to prove himself- he failed miserably- so now I'll give Obama the same time to see what he can do..

When the CBO says that obamas policys if enacted will add ten trillion to the current debt of 12 trillion and you want to give him 5 years which would mean two terms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You damn fool!!!!!!! You want to guess what Ron Paul thinks will happen to this country if we get in debt that deep??????

See OT that is where you miss the big picture by supporting Obama for President you support his whole agenda and all those ultra-liberals that came with him including Nancy and Harry. There is no picking and choosing. His agenda is to make the US just like Europe where you tax the businesses so they stop hiring then you impose on the businesses that they can not lay off employee's so then businesses stop growing and you have a system where there is no incentive to try and get ahead. The Europeans can not compete with good old Yankee ingenuity but if Obama has his way which you support as you voted for him we too will become just like the Europeans and fall behind and count on the Chinese for everything. Very simple but some are not wise enough to understand all the consequences of their actions.

RobertMac-- you are correct when you say I am a bigot and prejudiced...I am prejudiced against crooks, thieves, vandals, cheats, liars and deceivers-- of all creeds, colors, races, or religions... And when sugar springs puts up absolutely false statements like above-I guess I am prejudiced against him...I can't stand Liars and those that spread false innuendo as the truth...

RobertMac
That puts himi in ALL of the catagories he lists, has been and always will be

Iran contra was in fact well within the scope of the federal government to protect and defend the interests of the United States. Iran was under the control (and still is) of the religious oligarchy that deposed the Shah during the weak Carter administration. The covert support of anti-ayatollah factions was as necessary then as it is today, but no, today the government is ignoring their nuclear ambitions and throwing Israel to the wolves. The operations in Nicaragua were also necessary to stem the tide of communism pushing through south and central america. Take a look at what is happening in Venezuala today, if the US does not take a stand for liberty, freedom who will?? Obama is weaker than even Clinton on foreign policy, and probably as weak as Carter.

The only thing on foreign policy I disagreed with Reagan on is the pull out from Lebanon after the attack on the marines base there, that should have been met with ferocious retaliation, but given the times when the middle east was the surrogate battleground between the USA and the USSR such a response could have led to nuclear war, and I think Reagan's long game was, as he stated, to win the cold war, which he did through military and financial strength, not asking if there was something we could do so as not to hurt the russians feelings!

i think you are talking about all the illegal aliens you want in.

bullshit.

Not a false statement OT just plain old reality.

I supported Bush and did not approve of all he did but I will take the bad he did as well as all the good he did. I supported his overall plan more than Global Warming Al Gore whom I do believe we now know the truth about. And of course there was the great Senator from MA. with his wonderful, honest, upright family man, and running mate from North Carolina JOHN EDWARDS.

You see OT I am willing to admit what I support instead of hiding behind yes I supported him on this one but not that one. Fact is you voted for him you live with everything he does call me what ever names you like I know what and who I am.